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Friday, January 7, 2011

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Where are you from?

Interesting.

24 comments:

  1. I read the article and I did find it interesting, though I think that you can go to any urban area in the world and say you're from America and they will understand. After all it's not like the first thing that comes to mind when a person says America is Canada or Peru. I am not surprised that the commies were fond of the writer because he has Cuban roots. When I went to South America with my Grandpa People would ask us where we are from and we would say America. Everyone we spoke to understood. If you ever see a movie about immigrant coming to the USA they always associate America with the US. You see them walking on to Ellis Island and point at the Statue of Liberty and tell there children that the statue symbolized America , not the EEUE or what ever the article says the acronym is. After all USA stands for United States of AMERICA.

    Tyler Levinson Period 6

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  2. @Tyler

    The writer is my cousin who is on a year-long journey around the world. What you read is a post on the blog he and his wife are writing about their experiences.

    If you read carefully, Bryan is telling you, in fact, that people in different countries refer to us (Americans) in different ways. It's a fact he is experiencing at the moment. When you compare the fact that we (Americans) refer to people from other countries in a way that is different from how they refer to themselves, it actually isn't surprising that it is different in every country, and he is constantly having to adjust the way he answers the simple question, "Where are you from?"

    Did you get the point of the blog post? I think you need to read it again.

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  3. Hey Mrs. Powers
    I actually really like that blog post just because I sometimes struggle with that answer, but not always for the same reasons.

    I obviously live in the United States, but I was born in Venezuela and lived there for a couple of years. When people ask me where I'm from, I usually say Venezuela. When I'm actually in Venezuela, I might just have to explain that I was born there, lived there, and yeah you get the point.

    Also, when I speak Spanish, I have more of a Venezuelan accent than anything else. If I take a trip to a latin country, where they obviously speak Spanish, they might notice our accents right off the bat, so I just end up saying Venezuela.

    But if I do ever say the United States, I sometimes find myself having to say Miami because to foreigners Miami is more common.

    I also think that the question also depends on how much the country is educated on the United States (also if education is easily accessed) and its interactions with the United States.

    Also, (concerning the EEUU), for us in Spanish, United States is Estados Unidos (it's actually a spot-on translation if you speak Spanish, "Craig") and as the post mentioned, EU is probably reserved for the European Union. Unlike in English, (where we have many abbreviations; United States of America, United States, U.S., etc) thats pretty much the only name they have in Spanish so the only other option would be to double the letters to initial it. Really, it's no big deal unless you actually speak Spanish.

    If it were that way (as in having to pronounce all the countries "correctly"), it would be pretty hard to pronounce all the countries with their native names and I'm pretty sure that's how the other countries feel. We just translate it to make it easier to understand in our language.

    -Diana S.
    P.4

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  4. Diana: That's funny, because almost the same thing happens to me! I'm from Canada, born there, lived there for 10 years, so whenever I get the question, Where are you from?, I automatically say Canada. Maybe it's because it's my Canadian... pride (?), maybe it's because I don't want to say I'm from the US... I don't know. BUT (Yup, there's always a 'but'), my dad travels a lot, and whenever I accompany him and get asked where I'm from, when I say Canada, the asker gets a confused look on their face, because my dad lives in the USA! So in foreign countries I usually say the USA.

    If people live in a tiny, rural village where the education levels are low, then 'America' might not cut it. Instead, you might have to say 'United States of America', a term with which much of the world is familiar. THEN, and only then, can you specify: Florida, Colorado, whatever.

    One more thought: Estados Unidos. EEUU? I DO take Spanish 2, but I don't really see a connection...? Maybe it's just the first letter of each word x 2?

    This was a very interesting article, and I even showed it to my mom, who found it very true and "insightful" (her exact words).

    Mira Merchant
    Period 3

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  5. That was an interesting article. I thought that it was funny how some people wouldn't understant if you told them, I'm from Durham or North Carolina. Some people in foreign countries or even different states just don't quite grasp some of the geographical locations of certain places. Like Craig said most people will generally understand if you say that youre from America but it is hard for some people to understand much more specific. Cities, states even areas of a country are just hard to understand. It was also funny how some terms for foreigners come to obtain negative connotations.
    Kevin Scott Period 5

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  6. I re-read the article and now I understand. I found the fact that what we know of as the Vietnam war is called the American War in Vietnam. I guess it would be stupid for them to reffer to it as te ceitnam war because all of the wars concerning them would then be call the same thing. It would be like an American (there is the word) call both the Nam and Korean wars the American war.

    Tyler Levinson pr-6

    p.s. I'd how do you spell re-read(or reread) as in to have been read again?

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  7. I read the article and I found that I have been in this situation whenever I travel. However, most people understand what I am saying when I respond, "The United States". This may be that I've traveled to countries that have relations with the U.S. (eg. Spain, UK, Portugal, Dominican Republic, etc.). But, if I go to Venezuela or any other Latin American country, I wouldn't answer "United States" or "Florida", I would answer "Miami" (even though I don't actually live there). I don't know the reason why, but Miami is just a common point of refernce to almost everyone in South America, especially if your from the Caribbean areas. Saying you live in Miami to a Venezuelan, Colombian, etc. is like telling a Cuban that you live in Little Havana; everyone knows where it is.

    Concerning the names a native gives to a foreigner, I don't get how the word "gringo" got a bad connotation.

    Andrea De Abreu
    P.5

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  8. Ok so after commenting on the blog post, I showed the original article to my mom. Concerning the EEUU thing, she said that it was because Estados Unidos was plural, so it made sense to double the letters, too.(:

    @Mira
    I do kind of think it's some pride, too(;

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  9. Gringo is a negative word because it is derived from "green go" which is what the Mexicans said to US soilders when America occupied Mexico.

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  10. I think that the backstory of this article is that no matter where we were born or where we are from, all people are equal and should be treated that way.
    Allison Blake period three

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  11. @Craig, that's not entirely true; there are a lot of different stories behind that name. But we just use that name to describe people from America. It's like people here calling us Spanish. It's not supposed to be a negative word, even though some people may use it that way.

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  12. This is a very true article. After being in Geography all last year, I still don't know if I can match cities with countries. Also, if you happen to meet a bilingual citizen who speaks English and whatever language the country you are in speaks, he can give you the things to say so the natives can understand you.

    Max Brenner
    Period 5

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  13. @Andrea
    Don't you hate how people call us Spanish and not Latin. I mean, it's not like we were born in Spain, so technically, we're not Spanish.

    As for the word "gringo," it's not really an offensive word in Argentina, whereas here it is slightly derogatory. I do get mad when someone uses it to mean Caucasian, though. (I, for one, have been called "gringa" many times because I look "white". I usually proceed in cursing out whoever called me gringa in my Argentinean accent. :D)

    Oh, and if someone ever asks you where you're from, just say where you were born and where you currently live.

    Caterina Golner
    Period 2

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  14. I really enjoyed this article!! And I felt really identified with many comments. I, for one thing, have had trouble explaining to people where I'm from. I was born and raised in Chile, and for some odd reason... NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IN THE WORLD IT IS. People ask where I'm from, I tell them where, and they look at with a very "come again?" facial expression. After explaining that its the really long country right next to Argentina, to the west side of the continent, I either leave them more confused, or a bit more oriented. All in all, that's what I go through almost everytime I'm asked where I am from.
    Also, I have lived through some funny experiences during my life time. The most remarkable one was the following: in second grade, my teacher was getting to know us all, and she asked me where I was from. I innocently respond, and she asks me in an odd tone, "But if your from South America, why don't you have last names like the other kids from Colombia of Venezuela?" I might have been young and uninformed about many things, but I was sure that what I had just heard was very ignorant. After explaining to my teacher that my grandfather was from Switzerland, she seemed to understand a bit more. I found it very absurd for someone to make such inferences. But again, now I laugh about it.
    And a short note to "Craig": just because you know what you mean when you say "America" it doesn't mean everyone will. True, I, being from South America, do not reffer to myself as being "American", but if you say it in some South American countries, they might not understand what you mean. It's very important to be considerate of other nationalities as well. After all, AMERICA is a generalization for North, South, and Central America all the same.
    -Isabel Hofmann, Pd.4

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  15. Hey Mrs. Powers, I found this blog post very interesting.

    After moving around the world and living in so many places including: Canada, Barbados, Bahamas, Florida, and soon England, I struggle with this answer.

    I usually say that I am Canadian, even though I only lived there for two years. Though really I'm a lot more American than Canadian. After living in the U.S. for eight years I have pretty much spent most of my life here.

    If someone were to ask me where I am from it would probably be more accurate to say the U.S. Though I always respond by saying Canada.

    This is a very interesting article, which I really enjoyed reading.

    -Kayla Moodie, Pd.3

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  16. Hi Mrs. Powers,

    I found this article very true, although I haven't been to any of the countries that the author talked about. However, I think that just a simple United States of America would have sufficed. if people who were familiar with the United States would have asked for a specific location, then Colorado, United States would be a good answer in my opinion.

    I also agree with Mira and Diana. When someone asks were I am from, I want to answer Israel, even though I moved here eight years ago. I think it is because I am proud of my country. Anyway, I have become used to answering Florida if it is in the United States, and United States if it is outside of the country.

    Yuval S.
    Period 3

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  17. Actually, to comment on Mira, most people would be confused because they would think your from India (that is what I thought). To this article, its true about foreigners but I wonder if there would be a day when a whole country would have a larger foreigner population than the people actually from there, since the USA once belonged to Indians and then Columbus came and took over. So actually most of us would be foreigners and only probably less than 40% or 30% would be descendants of the original indians. Plus, the USA already has many asians, hispanics, and other foreigners here that are probably about between 30-40% of the population or more. China now already has English schools for Americans because there are so many Americans in China. So maybe one day the whole world might be united into one race and there would be no foreigners.
    Maggie Meng P6

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  18. I think that saying where you were born, and where you currently live is fine.

    Christal Hector
    Period 3

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  19. So.... I definitely identify with all of the "foreigners" who wrote a blog post because I, like them, am not from here, so when others ask me where I'm from, it's a bit hard to answer. Though, I usually never respond America or United States or any other name. I am from Colombia and like Yuval said, the reason I say Colombia is my pride and patriotism. Although, many times when I say Colombia, people are surprised because of the fact that I not only have no accent in English, but I also that I speak it fluently. I mean I do love the United States, and it's my place of residence, but it's not my home. Of course, many times I may say I live in the U.S., but I never forget to include Colombia.

    And I don't agree with Tyler because I think that the word "gringo" doesn't have a negative connotation, it's only the way that a person may use that word or the way that a person may perceive it, like Tyler, that makes it negative.

    I really like this blog post and like Mira said, it is very "insightful" and you can tell that your cousin really thought about this concept.

    Juana D., Period 5

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  20. I really enjoyed this article. I can see how people feel when they are unsure of how to explain where they are from. It must be kind of annoying. Personally, I am not in this situation because I was born in Florida and I have lived here my whole life. If I was from somewhere else and I had to explain where I was from, I would be a bit confused and frustrated as well.
    I kind of agree with Christal though, too. You could say where you are from and where you currently live.

    amanda sadowski period 3

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  21. This article interested me because it is interesting to see how people around the world refer to Americans.

    It is hard sometimes telling where you're from. I was born in New York, but both of my parents were born in Guyana, South America. When people ask me where my parents were born I always say South America. After I tell them that one or sometimes both of two things happen: they automatically think that my parents are Latin or they think I am lying because of my appearance. Then I must add that they are from Guyana. Not every county in South America is Latin. Which is why depending on who asks I must change my answer.

    Stephanie Mahadeo
    Period 3

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  22. This article was very intriguing. I sometimes find it hard to tell people where i am from. Ive lived for five years in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and eight years Here in Weston. When i am here in the U.S i consider myself an Argentine, and i am proud of it. Yet when i go to Argentina i struggle on whether to say I am from Buenos Aires or from the U.S. Also, i have citizenship from three countries, Argentina, U.S.A., and Spain. Something that is also interesting is that counties all over the world have different names for the same things. I don't find it surprising that in South America People dint understand when the writer said that they were from America. i know many people who don't like it that 'Estadounidenses' call themselves Americans. Actually everyone who lives in North or South America, is American. In fact In Europe and South America, North and South America are considered one Continent. So kids in Europe and South America are being taught that there are 6 continents, ass opposed to here in the U.S where there are 7 continents.
    Juan Federico Trigo
    period 5

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  23. I thought this article was interesting because I never know what to say when people ask me where I'm from or what my ethnicity is. Being that my dad is from Spain and my mom is from the US, and I have duel citizenship , I never know how to answer both of these questions. However, whenever I'm asked where I'm from I answer the U.S.

    I read what Federico said and I knew that my dad was taught that there were only six continents, but I never really put much thought into it. To be honest, I never even thought of calling the South Americans Americans because they take the name from their country (such us Brazil- Brazilian). After I thought about it some more I thought, what are we Americans (living in the United States) supposed to call ourselves to show that we are from the United States and not Brazil? I think that because we call our country the United States and America we are allowed to call ourselves Americans.

    -Marina Rubio Period 6

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  24. Ryan G p6

    Very interesting. Many ways to say "I am from America"

    I have realized that where you are, you say where you are from.

    For example...

    If someone in Florida asks me where I'm from I will say Ft. Lauderdale, (close enough.)

    If someone in another state asks me where I'm from I would say Florida.

    In a spanish speaking country, I would say Los Estados Unidos.

    AND

    If I am in any other country I would just say America.

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